Updates and advice for Methods of Payments available to and from the UK, Europe and Asia for people who buy and sell used panties online.

Written by Panty Trust Volunteer Lily and Thai Kitty

'Paypal – this is a definate no no when it comes to panty payments all across the world. Paypal do not allow payments relating to adult themed items. If you are caught using Paypal then you and the buyer can be fined and suspended from paypal. If a buyer tries to persuade you to accept Paypal please do not agree. It is just not worth the consequences. There are lots of payment methods around that are just as easy and alot safe' ...read more here

Dear Panty Lovers

its with overwhelming sadness that I say goodbye to Panty Land, real life has finally caught up with my procrastinating ways and I can no longer put off what I need to get done (a year ago!).

My Ask Serena column will remain here on Panty Hog as a public resource for information, should any Panty Trust members with experience wish to add articles, please be my guest, it would be great to see it living on.

If you are a new panty seller in need of advice, please get hold of Panty Trust Volunteers and they will happily assist you with your questions.

As far as Panty Trust goes, I’m going to be a silent director until the new Code of Conduct and the new website are fully implemented, after which, I will no longer take part in new applicant assessments, PT volunteers however will.

Soooooo…… I hate goodbyes, so it is ciao for now!

xx
 Serena

www.serenassecret.net

(my blog is now a personal one, do pop in and say Hi)

Question:

HI Serena,

I don't understand which is the best way to verify that I AM A GENUINE GIRL!!  I am a nursery teacher in RL I don't want the guys to think I'm a man or to see my real name. Every panty website tells me I need to supply verification, is this the real case? If I write my name on a card and take photos do I become "verified"? Or do I have to send it to panty trust? What can do about Alertpay showing my real name? PLESE HELP Serena!

BTW I love your column, thanks for sharing your knowledge you're the most accomplished panty seller I've come across. The net seems full of low quality advice and its very confusing at its best.

Teacher's Panties XXXX

Answer:

Hi Teacher, thank you for the vote of confidence : )

There are a number of used panty sites offering some level of self-verification system, it is confusing, which is exactly why some of these systems exists, to confuse you and your buyers. Would your school be a little confused if they thought you had accredit yourself as a teacher? I think they would be.

Offering your buyers and the community a basic verification set of photos holding a sign with your name written on it is always recommend, it provides the receiver a fair idea as to how you look like and it proves they are talking to really is a girl and not Steve. This type of verification is very popular amongst new panty sellers, however, such fairly rudimentary system does not constitute an endorsement of a panty seller or a guarantee of a seller's business practices and ethics. Which is the crucial point! 'Yes she looks like a girl, but she can still be a scammer', is what buyers think.

Buyers no longer buy into the 'self-verification' system as they once did, unfortunately these days buyers expect additional security when evaluating panty sellers, such as how long they've been on the used panty scene, what other buyers are saying about them, where do they sell, and what does the community think about them.

Panty Trust offers much more then a basic visual verification service, a Panty Trust Verified panty seller has provided additional evidence of their business practices by passing essential checks with the help of the PT committee and not an independent individual -   This is the type of verification which increases the overall security (and therefor your sales) of the used panties network because most panty buyers prefer to do business with trustworthy sellers.

Here are some links to how you can set up Alertpay:

How to create an Alertpay Business Account

http://www.usedpantyportal.com/site-features/panty-columns/ask-serena/1404-alertpay-business-account.html

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NOTE:

I'm going on holiday and I will be back the first week of July. I will respond to all other enquiry then.

For most of us, knowing the difference between right and wrong is pretty clear and we generally understand what is acceptable and what is not. Some people ofen draw a line between 'normal' and 'abnormal' sexual behaviour and fetish, but this is not what we are discussing, we are purely highlighting the money-making ethical side of selling used panties. Ethical behaviour is a slightly separate matter then doing right or wrong, used panty ethics are suggested and maintained by the panty community as a whole, however they were not always written down or specifically communicated, which is why in 2006 Panty Trust members decided to propose a Code of Conduct now honoured by all its members (and still very much applicable to the whole panty scene in general).

The Panty Trust Code of Conduct is simple but its not for everyone, sadly there are plenty of people who think that selling underage panties, spamming, rudeness and stealing is perfectly OK, as long as it brings money in.

The members of Panty Trust take fair business practice, civil conduct, and honesty very seriously and are working very hard to improve and update the Code of Conduct in order to keep maintaining the credibility that Panty Trust and its members believe in. All Panty Trust members will have the opportunity to vote for or against these changes once the proposals are ready. Also, Panty Trust can always do with more members volunteering to help with new applicants forms and the day to day running of the organisation, please get in touch with Panty Trust if you would like to contribute with your time. Please remember that joining Panty Trust goes much further then becoming Verified, if you are thinking of joining only to generate more revenue, please look for better alternatives.

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About 3 weeks ago allegations of questionable behaviour began to surface in connection with a panty seller called Pip of www.mypantiesdrawer.com, a red head from Canada who has been on the scene for over a year.

Her self-promotion quickly brought her a fair amount of attention on various panty sites, although some skepticism and puzzled panty buyers recognized Pip as a 'strange character'.

In retrospect, the inconsistencies in Pip's circumstances were pretty obvious: she claimed not be interested in selling due to personal, work and privacy issues, that she was simply exploring the fetish scene as a 'guest' and she was far too worried about what was happening in Korea to be thinking about being sexual. For someone not interested in making money or selling used panties, she certainty spent an awful lot of time online.

But none of this fakery bullshit mattered much until the Pip persona began to create more personas, change profiles, names and descriptions  - She began to assign herself as Queen the MILF, Miss MoneyPenny the divorcée, Teeny the Uni student, Ella the tired mother etc etc -  These fake profiles managed to go unnoticed until scam reports started to be circulated by confused buyers who one day had been talking to MoneyPenny, a day later a metamorphosed Queen.

By the end of  week 3, a scary picture had unfolded as to how Pip managed to con the community into thinking she was at least 4 different people, all selling panties appealing to various audiences.

Question:

I'm after a bit of advice if you don't mind. I sold a set of custom pics to a buyer after sending him two sample pics, he has now turned around and said that they're not what he wanted. I've replied saying that the set I sent was similar if not better than the original two and that he now has  a full custom pics of me for £ 7 . What's the best way to deal with this? Obviously I don't want to get bad feedback as a newbie.

Answer:

Its not an easy one, nor there is a straightforward way to deal with unhappy buyers.

More often then not, buyers do understand that we are not professional models and we are not photographers, they are happy to know that we make every effort to show how capable we are of using our bodies and our cameras, and that we will do all we can to create  £7 worth of digital material.

Several weeks ago, PantyBid.com banned a member who was selling used panties under the name of Hannah Jackson. This person was using fake photos of several different Hair Models to try and sell used panties as a girl, when in fact Hannah Jackson's real identity is Carl, the owner of the latest internet Phishing Scam www.pantybid.co.uk.

Please read the whole report here: http://serenassecret.net/2011/05/13/pantybid-co-uk-is-a-phishing-scam/

One of the biggest pain the backside on the used panties fetish scene, are those seeking free time and stuff from you, with no intention of purchasing any of your panties, ever.  Often, these time wasters will disguise themselves as 'Horny Panty Buyer' or 'Minted Panty Addict', in an effort to get as much of your time as possible. Your time is valuable, and unless you have loads of it spare, try to identify and block these time abusers from your network as quick as possible.

How to spot the time wasting type:

First, time wasters and non-buyers are 2 completely different types, time-wasters will approach you lying about wanting to buy your used panties, non-buyers will approach you to say Hi, and maybe buy your panties in the future. No lies, no problem.

Time wasters will normally buzz around newbies panty sellers, knowing very well that established girls can see them coming and will not even bother to engage. Anyone who's ever emailed me: 'I want your panties now,

Please read this article, in particular if you use Alertpay as a method of payment to sell and buy used panties.

Link: Payment Services (and Alertpay) Phishing Scam Alert

As much as most buyers feel that Carts and Check-Outs turn buying used panties into a rather impersonal and 'Amazon like' experience, there are suitable adult friendly e-commerce products you could add to your website to sell your used panties. Be aware that a large number of hosts such as Webs, Yola, Weebly, may offer an inbuilt web store and cart, however, those hosts do not allow e-Adult related trading, which means that they are not suitable for your online used panties fetish business.

First you need to find an adult friendly e-commerce product you can add to your website, second, you need to make sure that whatever method of payment your cart provider is affiliated with, its also adult friendly. For example, www.popcart.net is a slick looking tool, but sadly it only checks out to Paypal and Google Check-Out which is completely useless. The most convenient way to operate your cart would be by linking it to a popular online method of payment such as Alertpay. An adequate shopping cart solutions for the your used panties business could be www.zen-cart.com, its completely free and their add-on features include Alertpay check outs, different currencies displays, a selection of Buttons and Graphics to suit your website look and fee, and much more. The installation requires some techie skills and external hosting space.

In my opinion, you can sell your used panties by having a simple, tidy up-to-date gallery, listing your prices and method of payments clearly, and ask your buyers to email you and say Hi, but if you must, then a legit cart will also work.

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