my fist time was off the cloth line that was next door i got 4 pair of panties the next day i walk the hood looking for colthes that was on the line at dark i would go pick up what i could that was left out i was 14 at the time and had over 25 pairs in one summer it was great one day the girl next door that was 19 yo put out 10 pair at one time with a note that said have fun with them i loved it