[Anna]

admin wrote:

Prostitution has been illegal in the USA since the early 1900’s. Be careful about the Nevada thing, there is just a very tiny, out in the middle of nowhere, spot in the remote desert where it is legal only in a couple of state approved “ranches”. Look for a “date” in Vegas and you go to jail.

In the USA, if a John and a prostitute get caught, they both go to jail, and in many communities the John gets his picture and name put in the local paper, and if he picked up the prostitute with his car, his car is permanently taken from him as well.

Wow, I didn’t know that. In the UK prostitution isn’t illegal. But soliciting, pimping, running a brothel and living off immoral earnings is. If a prostitute ever gets arrested it is because she has solicited. Our Home Secretary is currently trying to change the law so paying for sex becomes the illegal act. The assumption being that all prostitutes are victims and they are being forced into prostitution.

[Anna]

My understanding, correct me anyone if I am wrong, is that if someone says something good, or interesting or funny or anything positive then you can award them with a karma.

If they say something nasty or annoying or anything negative then you deduct a karma.

It’s a bit like kissing someone on the cheek :kiss: or whacking them around the back of the head :pinch: but in a virtual way 😛

[Anna]

If anyone is in contact with Lulu can they give her my best please.

[Anna]

Love2Smell wrote:

I agree with Anna that the request for a telephone number is unnecessary and suspicious.

And do I understand you folks correctly here? You’re suggesting that sending panties in the mail, for money — versus giving someone a pair of panties in person, for money — are two fundamentally different acts where the law is concerned? That the first is not prostitution, but the second is? Of course, we buyers shouldn’t ask a seller to cross over any universally-recognized legal barrier. (I understand that SOME states in the American South have laws directed specifically against panty selling. But it’s legal, if frowned upon, in many other places.)

That isn’t what I am saying. I am saying that a prostitute is more likely to meet up with a stranger because she has the experience and knowledge to know when a situation is safe. A newbie panty seller hasn’t. It is unfair of a buyer to ask this of a newbie.

Prostitution isn’t illegal. It isn’t in the UK and I’m sure it isn’t in the US so legality has nothing to do with it. It’s about risk assessment and risk awareness.

Having said that, here are my arguments for the other side.

First, there are stories going back decades about dancers at strip clubs giving and/or selling their panties to customers (I’ve never visited one, so I can’t attest to this). Strip clubs are legal, and fairly heavily policed. Are the dancers acting illegally, if they give away or sell their panties? Why don’t we hear about strippers getting arrested?

Because it isn’t illegal.

Second, I know that I’ve read at least two stories here on Panty Hog about face-to-face meetings between a buyer and a seller. The first story — forgive me for not remembering all the details — took place in the Chicago area. I recognized both the buyer’s and seller’s names, they were long-time members of this web site. They met at a bar, and I believe that each of them came with a group of friends. It sounded very safe and sexy for both of them. I seem to remember that she actually waved the panties past his nose for a moment in the bar!

This was an experienced seller who took every precaution, and had plenty of back up. I’m sure it can work. No reason why it shouldn’t. The seller just needs to ask herself if the risk is worth it.

Our Mistress Anna also met with a buyer in person. We’ve discussed it here. She once had a breathtaking story about the experience posted in the Stories Section. As I recall, the meeting began in a restaurant or coffee shop. But then, she actually got in the guy’s car to take the panties off. I and other people were surprised at her bravery, even concerned. Anna has said that she won’t go that far again, and I don’t blame her.

Yep, I did didn’t I? 😛 All done in a public place where I weighed him up before I took the decision to jump in his car, in a public carpark in an area I knew better than him. Like I said, it can work.

Since then I have often taken my panties off in front of men but this time it is in my dungeon and I use the panties to gag them. I shove the panties halfway down a stocking and then I shove the panties in their mouth and tie the stocking behind their head.

Sometimes I sit on their face with my panties on and I smother them, raising my bum every now and again to let them get a gasp of air.

They’re usually naked and tied up so again – no risk to me 😉 Plus in my line of work I do tend to live on the edge anyway and I’ve met some fantastic blokes because of it.

But finally, for all the love you panty ladies have shared with me by mail, the best experiences I have had continue to be with the rare panties I find myself — when I am a guest at a woman’s home, or vice versa. In my experience, something vital is lost from the panties, with even one or two days in the postal system.

If it were safe for everyone concerned, and unquestionably legal to do so, I would love to meet in person.

It is definitely legal in that it isn’t specifically illegal. Statistically, we are all at more risk from our boyfriends, partners, exes, work colleagues and friends than we are from strangers.

I personally wouldn’t have a problem with meeting up with someone but I would make sure it was in a public area. It would also be with someone who I had had some correspondence with too just so that I can evaluate their state of mind. They would also have to understand that I would be meeting them to exchange panties and payment only, not to ‘audition’ to be their girlfriend or potential new love interest. In other words it would be a business meeting.

I personally refuse to live my life on the assumption that there are a dozen serial killers out there specifically wanting to slit my throat. But I am careful and I do listen to my instincts.

My advice is listen to your instincts, be safe but don’t be scared for no good reason. We shouldn’t live our lives scared.

Just weigh up the costs and benefits of meeting up with a buyer. Is there really that much difference between meeting up with a buyer or meeting up with say, a friend of a friend on a blind date?

[Anna]

have some karma from me too for being a good egg :kiss:

[Anna]

Most people are perfectly sane and safe and it may just be that he wants a pair fresh off a woman because he’s being scared of being ripped off, but why he would need your phone number is beyond me. He could possibly take a fancy to you and pester you continuously, ringing at all hours, waving the cash and expecting you to come running. It could be very distressing.

We’ve had this sort of request before on here, and we’ve always given the same answer. Prostitutes are in the business of meeting up with strangers for private transactions and those are the women who possibly wouldn’t mind handing over their panties for a fair sum which includes their time. If the buyer wants them that fresh then he should have no problem in contacting a prostitute.

We’re panty girls. We like to stay safe.

Tell him thanks but no thanks is my advice.

[Anna]

Hope you don’t take this the wrong way, but a bit of advice. You’re very expensive for a new unverified seller.

Panties – $50
Masturbated in – +$15
Postage – +$4

Total = $69!!!

Most other newbie sellers sell masturbated in panties for $20+

If you want to keep your panties at that price, which of course you are entitled to, then you need to show why you are asking so much or the buyers will take one look, laugh, and go elsewhere.

It’s a very rare seller who sells for more than $50 all in.

[Anna]

…and he hasn’t been back since he posted!!

Don’t waste your time girls…he isn’t interested.

[Anna]

I’d be happy with just 8 inches over the weekend

:blink:

[Anna]

Wow we just don’t get snow like that in the UK anymore. :blink:

We just get rain. Did I ever tell you how much rain we get here? 🙁

[Anna]

Ah you haven’t heard of Panty Politics then eh Sam?

As well as deadbeat buyers you also have sellers who rip off buyers. Not only that you have sellers who pretend to be buyers to discredit their rivals. Then of course I am sure you have buyers who pretend to be other buyers to discredit an innocent seller. You can’t take anything at face value. This ‘arnold’ hasn’t been back to this site since he posted his unsubstantiated accusation so I firmly believe it to be someone just out to cause trouble.

I’ve seen BarefootBabe’s postings and she has always been fair, reasonable, opinionated but always mature with measured responses. In fact she’s just like me B)

[Anna]

desire wrote:

i think i got excited that someone was interested but i must admit i was quiet disapointed when i realsied he was having me on:blush:

sam xxx

We’ve all been there Honey 🙁 You’re not the first to be taken in and you won’t be the last.

[Anna]

yep, it is exactly that Ponygirl. The asshats take complete advantage of the keen eager to please newbie seller. I would hate to be a newbie seller again.

You do get to know the difference eventually but unfortunately you only learn by bitter experience. Obviously it goes without saying that when you do get a decent buyer you make sure you look after him. It’s the decent genuine buyers that make it all worthwhile because they respect you, and they enjoy the fetish with you…rather than seeing you as some kind of freebie provider put on the earth to supply them with what they want, how and what they want, with no thought, consideration…or payment!

Grrrrr :angry: It really riles me that the poor newbies are having to deal with this crap at all.

[Anna]

Ponygirl wrote:

but often there just aren’t enough hours in the day when you have a full time job and a life to fit in too! I get 20-50 emails a day to reply to, which takes a lot of time…Some buyers seem to require daily email contact though, which sadly I can’t provide. 🙁

It’s just about finding the right balance I reckon.

You’re right Ponygirl. You have to consider what your panty incomings are compared to the time spent dealing with emails etc. If you worked out the hourly rate, you’d probably cry.

I took the decision when I first started selling to be polite but concise. Anyone who wanted constant reassure was put down as a timewaster. This was my method and my decision. I am PT verified, I spend a lot of time on PHog and I spent time updating my site and my blog, yet some ‘buyers’ still wanted reassurance. I came to the quick conclusion that they had no intention of buying, they were angling for freebie pics or just simply wanted to feel wanted or needed by me, or just anyone. A lot of the shine came off selling when I realised that some ‘buyers’ were simply waving the promise of a bit of cash for me to dance to their tune.

Yep, it’s a matter of getting the balance right, and it’s not so easy to do.

[Anna]

Nothing to my knowledge 🙁

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